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- From: bmontgom@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Byron Montgomerie)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: The March Amiga?
- Date: 18 Jan 1996 17:28:10 GMT
- Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
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- George Noel (gnoel@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
- : >Agreed, although what AT considers a cheap price could get you a 486 running
- : >TCP software.
-
- : You would only get this second hand and God knows what the computer has
- : been through. The 486s have been discontinued, A1200s are still being
-
- 1200 DM is what, over $1000 CDN? I can get a 486dx100 for $1100 CDN with
- monitor, hard drive, etc and this is NEW. It would be mail order to answer
- your next question. I would have to replace the 4 meg simm with an 8 meg one
- to be sure but to do that would cost me what $200 CDN? Could TCP software run
- in 4 Megs on a PC? About as well as it can on a bare a1200.
-
- : Thus the problems with no standards and software writers having to keep
- : guessing what everyone is using or have to write multiple drivers to make
- : sure their software gets used by a majority of people. I don't want to
- : have to contend with that on future Amigas!
-
- Who says you have to? Actually though, the buses have nothing to do with the
- drivers, it is the specific cards you plug in that want their own drivers and
- this is more to use special features, they have a lcd like the amiga.
-
- : >$1600 P80 with $300 SVGA monitor, $280 850 MB hard drive, $200 CDROM drive.
- : >(Not to mention the HD floppy, 8 megs of ram etc.)
-
- : Where to? And do you mean the $1600 P80 is the total price or the rest of
-
- Actually, that is an average price based on around 30 ads in The Computer Paper
- an atlantic magazine. The ads were from companies based all over the
- country.
-
- : the prices have to be added onto it? The Hard Drive, is it SCSI or IDE,
-
- All PCs come with 3.5" IDE.
-
- : RAM can be used in Amigas, depending what Amiga you have will determine
- : if you can use a VGA/SVGA monitor standard and if you can't, then you can
-
- Say that again once you have tried it and see how much software will run.
-
- : buy an adapter (BTW I have seen a cheap VGA/SVGA monitor being used on an
- : Amiga locally in town) Those prices are they local or out of province?
-
- Canada wide.
-
- : Are they in dealers, department stores or at Warehouse places such as
- : Business Depot or Price Club? Does that configuration have
- : brand-name/known parts or no name parts which will cause
- : configurability/compatibility problems and is listed in Windows '95 list
- : of non supported hardware?
-
- How about I just lend you an issue of The Computer Paper and you can answer
- your own questions.
-
- : With the adding a card for ram obviously you are talking about the
- : current A1200, we already know this is going to change. As for adding
- : external devices via a card, you have to realize Byron, what you save in
- : the initial price you have to make up for by upgrading it when you find
- : it neccessary. You are comparing a low end all in one Amiga to powerfull
-
- Realise? That is the only point I have been trying to make with all this.
- It is the numbers which are getting disproportionate. Get everything for $1600
- CDN or in bits for $3000. The use of proprietary cards on the amiga means we
- have to pay double to upgrade. The lack of standards mean only the amiga high
- end gets to keep cards between models and then only perhaps. Having standard
- buses is not evil.
-
- : PCs which can be considered high end and are built to be easily expanded
- : or come with stuff already installed, the Amiga 1200 is not like that and
- : if you don't like it, then get the next higher up Amiga in which you will
- : be able to compare it to PCs a bit more.
-
- At $4000 CDN an a4000 is not an option. Even if I had the cash I wouldn't buy
- such a thing. Not when I can get a P133 based machine and have $2000 CDN left
- over to spend on optional hardware and software upgrades.
-
- : When the A1200 first came out it was heralded as the cheapest most
- : powerful computer on the market, don't say "what has changed since then?"
- : this is where the Amiga needs to go again, be the cheapest computer for
- : the most power STANDARD!
-
- Lets say the PPC amiga is $1800 CDN in 97, what will PCs cost then? If the
- amiga continues with all this proprietary stuff it will not be worth buying.
-
- Regards,
-
- BM
-
-